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www.thursopicturehouse.funtigo.com

We will NEVER put our films online but we will give you some stills to look
at. If you want full movies, TUFF!

Thanks for that... statement... it was good of you to tell us that....


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"Cinema For Thurso Group" <forums@theiac.org.uk> wrote:

www.thursopicturehouse.funtigo.com

We will NEVER put our films online but we will give you some stills to look
at. If you want full movies, TUFF!

"Cinema For Thurso Group" <forums@theiac.org.uk> wrote:

www.thursopicturehouse.funtigo.com

We will NEVER put our films online but we will give you some stills to look
at. If you want full movies, TUFF!

Is it that you find your films too good to give out free?
Do you put your films onto DVD for other clubs to watch on `Films from another
club` nights?

We send our films out to other clubs and we get one in return. Since be
the new club secretary, I even got some from all over the world. Onlt America
and Canada at the moment. But I`m working on it.

If you want an exchange, then give us a private email (so not to bore others
on here with club corispondence), and were arange it.

Ian Gardner

"Ian Gardner" <ian@gardner44.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

"Cinema For Thurso Group" <forums@theiac.org.uk> wrote:

www.thursopicturehouse.funtigo.com

We will NEVER put our films online but we will give you some stills to
look
at. If you want full movies, TUFF!

Is it that you find your films too good to give out free?

It is funny how people think that a blunt statement could be anything like
a air of self importance or superiority but alas we feel none of our work
is 'too' good and that would depend on what you take out of a picture as
'good'.
It is simply that we prefer public screenings of our work on the big screen
(there's a clue in our group name). We do get asked continually about putting
things on the web or on video. The latter is done but our funds are nearly
non-existant so it's rarer than a midge-free summer on a highland moor.
We will be exchanging footage at some point in the future because we are
wanting to show amateur films from all over the UK in our local area. We
are equiping at this time. The new screen arrived before christmas, a lovely
13ft7" x 7ft11". We haven't made a final choice on projector but are working
closely with our local supplier to secure a good price on a machine to meet
our needs.
Generally to see our work just keep an eye on our website which will advertise
our shows and then book your holiday in Caithness. I can give recommendations
on local hotels.

"Cinema For Thurso Group" <canuimagine@btopenworld.com> wrote:

"Ian Gardner" <ian@gardner44.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

"Cinema For Thurso Group" <forums@theiac.org.uk> wrote:

www.thursopicturehouse.funtigo.com

We will NEVER put our films online but we will give you some stills to
look
at. If you want full movies, TUFF!

Is it that you find your films too good to give out free?


It is funny how people think that a blunt statement could be anything like
a air of self importance or superiority but alas we feel none of our work
is 'too' good and that would depend on what you take out of a picture as
'good'.

I know whats it`s like. I thought my stuff was quite good untill I saw someone
elses! Sometimes you just have to hold your breath and dream! I find resourses
are a big drain on my productions. A one man band.

We will be exchanging footage at some point in the future because we are
wanting to show amateur films from all over the UK in our local area. We
are equiping at this time. The new screen arrived before christmas, a lovely
13ft7" x 7ft11". We haven't made a final choice on projector but are working
closely with our local supplier to secure a good price on a machine to meet
our needs.

Make sure you get the right projector. They are still very expensive for
what they are. You also get alot of horrible rainbow effects when your eye
looks at the bright white on a film and you then quickly move your eye. Our
club projector gives me headacks. It`s just the way the projector projects
and builds up the image.

It`s good to see your club so active in the community. You should be able
to get a Lottery Grant. We have had two! and they for £5000.00 each!

Well done.
Ian Gardner

Just a thought on video projectors ... none that I have found work properly
straight out of the box.

They are almost all designed to present computer graphics like Powerpoint
slide shows or spreadsheets for business use - and to do so in rooms with
a fair amount of ambient light. Films traditionally have different needs.


For film you need a darker image and work on the assumption that the ambient
lighting is low.

For computer use projectors need to give a bright image edge to edge so that
you can read all the figures on a spreadsheet. All cine projectors give a
brighter area in the centre of the screen than at the edges, and we expect
to view movies that way. The ideal contrast levels are different for business
video than for film and so on.

I am not good at setting video projectors up but there are a couple of DVDs
which provide a range of test signals and so on. These help even clots like
me to get the picture closer to the movie ideal. If you can track down an
engineer from one of the broadcast tv companies (we have an ex-BBC friend)
they know what very subtle adjustments are required to just make the image
on screen feel like film rather than very large tv set pictures.

It is worth noting that most clubs have their pictures far too bright. It
may be a reaction from years of underpowered cine and early video projectors.

The differences are subtle but become important. A well setup video projector
is less likely to give you headaches and indeed the latest ones rarely give
the rainbow fringe effect either.

It takes an expert a matter of hours to set up a video projector properly.
Once done the settings can usually be stored in the machine's memory for
future use. Most machines can store more than one set of settings so you
can have it perfect for your club room and just as bright as possible for
shows where you have to set up quickly in someone else's hall.

Dave

"Cinema For Thurso Group" <forums@theiac.org.uk> wrote:

www.thursopicturehouse.funtigo.com

We will NEVER put our films online but we will give you some stills to look
at. If you want full movies, TUFF!

I visited the above website and all I could find is a godaddy site saying
your site is "parked". Am I doing somethimg wromg?

Ned C

"Dave Watterson" <david.filmsocs@virgin.net> wrote:

Just a thought on video projectors ... none that I have found work properly
straight out of the box.

Dave

I`m going to give a talk and take my PC along to our club night in March
to give a demostration on Premiere Pro 1.5. Two weeks before I will be bringing
the projector home to try and get all this sorted out. One thing I did find
(the last time I brought it home) was that it worked perfectly using Prem
but when I tried to use Windows Media Player (WMP) all I got was the skin,
which is the programme itself and a big black box with no pictures in. I
think it must be something to do with `overlay`, as it plays Powerpoint stuff
ok!
Is there anyone on this forum that is responcible for the setting up of
their clubs projector on a club night?

Ian (Club Projectionist and One Man Band in Everything Else it would seem!)
Gardner

"Ian Gardner" <ian@gardner44.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

but when I tried to use Windows Media Player (WMP) all I got was the skin,
which is the programme itself and a big black box with no pictures in. I
think it must be something to do with `overlay`, as it plays Powerpoint
stuff

I am sure you are right, Ian.

A quick bit of digging around the net suggests you should be able to play
from WMP to the projector using the video output. I guess since you have
Premiere working that way the connection between PC and projector is OK.
So
1. After connecting the cables, always turn the projector on first, then
turn on your PC.
2. Set your computer display to 800 x 600 so that it matches the likely size
used by the projector. (Go Control Panel > Display > Settings.)
3. If you are using a laptop computer you may have to turn off the built-in
screen - check the instruction manual. It is usually a function key marked
"LCD/CRT".
4. Make sure WMP is set to play full screen.
5. On WMP go to Tools > Options > Performance >Advanced and untick "use overlays"
tick boxes.

Hope that lot will do the trick but have not been able to test it myself.

I have a feeling you can use video in PowerPoint presentations. Someone
told me you can access specific time code sequences on a DVD through PowerPoint
so it can be a good way to show specific scenes from a DVD without faffing
around through menus and so on. I only have Powerpoint Viewer on my machine
so cannot check this until I can get to another one. Try a Google search
for the technique.


Dave

"Dave Watterson" <david.filmsocs@virgin.net> wrote:

A quick bit of digging around the net suggests you should be able to play
from WMP to the projector using the video output. I guess since you have
Premiere working that way the connection between PC and projector is OK.
So
1. After connecting the cables, always turn the projector on first, then
turn on your PC.
2. Set your computer display to 800 x 600 so that it matches the likely
size
used by the projector. (Go Control Panel > Display > Settings.)
3. If you are using a laptop computer you may have to turn off the built-in
screen - check the instruction manual. It is usually a function key marked
"LCD/CRT".
4. Make sure WMP is set to play full screen.
5. On WMP go to Tools > Options > Performance >Advanced and untick "use
overlays"
tick boxes.

Hope that lot will do the trick but have not been able to test it myself.

Dave

Cheers Dave. What would we do without you. A Diamond on a sandy beach! I`ll
print that out and save it for when I borrow the projector. We had an incedent
when we had our Open Competition. The judges judged at one of their homes.
They said the picture quality was excellent. When club night came we viewed
the films and when it was time for the judges comments. They remarked how
the films didn`t look anything like what they saw! In one case, instead of
a lovely red path. Our projector gave a nice crappy grey one!!!
I`m going to have a play when I get it home. I hope I don`t Bu***r it up!
Thanks once again. Your a Rainbow on a stormy day!

Ian Gardner

"Ned C" <ned@ampsvideo.com> wrote:

"Cinema For Thurso Group" <forums@theiac.org.uk> wrote:

www.thursopicturehouse.funtigo.com

We will NEVER put our films online but we will give you some stills to
look
at. If you want full movies, TUFF!

I visited the above website and all I could find is a godaddy site saying
your site is "parked". Am I doing somethimg wromg?

Ned C

Quite possibly! You may also have attempted to reach the site whilst modifications
were being made. Try http://thursopicturehouse.funtigo.com I haven't had
any troubles looking at it myself.

Projectors: CFT already has one machine which enable members to view on a
private screen of 11ft by 3ft 10" but we are looking for a more capable machine
for the new big screen to be used in venues as well as outdoors during street
events in Thurso town centre. Once we have a good enough projector for the
job we will be linking up with other groups for various community events.
Moving images projected onto buildings or white-sided HGV trailers can look
quite cool to the unknowledgable punter blitzed on 20 tinnies and 2 bottles
of Aftershock with a straw. The cost of the projecters isn't really an issue
as equipment prices go but the one thing I do dislike is the nasty prices
for lamps which boils down to the fact that manufacturers have no industry
standards for this kind of projector.
The minute I find a projector with the right lamp compatability, it's going
to have a cine projector lamp fitted (yes we will look at the technical aspects
in detail before making changes). Who can argue with 250w cine lamps for
Elmo GS1200s (GOD OF ALL PROJECTORS_ HAIL THE MIGHTY ELMO) at £9.99?

Quite possibly! You may also have attempted to reach the site whilst modifications
were being made. Try http://thursopicturehouse.funtigo.com I haven't had
any troubles looking at it myself.

Thanks, connection made; the problem is obviously at my end,

Ned C