For any one who is learning the ropes setting up their own web sites for their films so we can all see them,
(nudge, nudge, nudge Thurso!) here are 3 good forums.
(Just copy and paste the URLs into your browser)
http://www.webmaster-talk.com/
http://www.web-mastery.net/forum7.html
(On this site if you put your cursor over a topic then a small window opens up and the question is revealed.)
http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/
(There is a beginnners section on this forum too.)
Happy webbing!
Albert....."Overture and beginners please." http://www.retinascope.co.uk/index.html
Help with building a website
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Cinema For Thurso Group
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I am very keen to see support for beginners. On another site I frequent, I see advice from more experienced members suggesting all kinds of idiot things that would be throwing new commers in at the deep end instead of taking it easy and gently working them in by using the basics first.
Somewhere along the way someone did an assessment of the difference in visual impact of motion images between cinema screens and tv on the viewer. The outcome was that it was found that Cinematic images lost over 75% of their impact when viewed on a TV screen. This is why I always advise people that if they found a film visually stunning when they first viewed it on video or dvd, they should make the every effort to see it at the cinema. With this in mind CFT does not back-step the film format for small screen. Moreover 16:9 widescreen TV doesn't have enough width for Panascreen imaging. So you'll just have to put up with stills only on our web page (which I may do something about updating- no promises).
Cinema For Thurso
Somewhere along the way someone did an assessment of the difference in visual impact of motion images between cinema screens and tv on the viewer. The outcome was that it was found that Cinematic images lost over 75% of their impact when viewed on a TV screen. This is why I always advise people that if they found a film visually stunning when they first viewed it on video or dvd, they should make the every effort to see it at the cinema. With this in mind CFT does not back-step the film format for small screen. Moreover 16:9 widescreen TV doesn't have enough width for Panascreen imaging. So you'll just have to put up with stills only on our web page (which I may do something about updating- no promises).
Cinema For Thurso
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AnimatioN
Small or large?
Whilst this may be true, we amateurs have to be thankful for small(!) mercies.
We cannot always dictate that our work be seen only on a big screen.
Recently a film of mine was seen for the first time on folks PC screen of the web and had a positive reception. So better for it, and others, to be seen in this way than not at all.
I have a world wide map positional system now for my website and can see which town or city in the world has viewed the site.(amazing what technology can do!) Yesterday, I had 6 hits from Canada, 2 from USA and
10 from UK. Whilst not all these hits would result in all my films being viewed, probably at least a few were, so this clearly demonstrates, does it not, that the small screen is better than no screen at all, even though, as you say, the impact will be less? Better a small something than nought!
Albert....
http://www.retinascope.co.uk/index.html
We cannot always dictate that our work be seen only on a big screen.
Recently a film of mine was seen for the first time on folks PC screen of the web and had a positive reception. So better for it, and others, to be seen in this way than not at all.
I have a world wide map positional system now for my website and can see which town or city in the world has viewed the site.(amazing what technology can do!) Yesterday, I had 6 hits from Canada, 2 from USA and
10 from UK. Whilst not all these hits would result in all my films being viewed, probably at least a few were, so this clearly demonstrates, does it not, that the small screen is better than no screen at all, even though, as you say, the impact will be less? Better a small something than nought!
Albert....
http://www.retinascope.co.uk/index.html
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Ned C
Re: Small or large?
Congratulations Albert, I believe this is the future and will improve as the technology develops.
My question to Thurso is "How do we get to see your films?" Visited your website, looks very interesting, would love to see your work. In spite of its obvious limitations with video we can share our productions and there are various "robins" circulating tapes and disks to small audiences; but being seen with feedback to the makers. I have received two e-mail comments on shorts on the AMPS disk and passed the comments back to the film makers who were deeply grateful for them.
The other interesting point is that with the advent of HDV and large screen TV/surround sound the gap between the cinema experience and the home experience has narrowed. Cinema attendance in the USA is declining with DVD sales and rentals rising. I know that a visit to the cinema with an audience is a shared experience but I find myself increasingly distanced from the audience and the sound coming through the
walls from the cinemas on each side as "Spiderman" is played at full throttle is very distracting. Here's to more films on the internet (hope we get broadband soon) and the various robins who share their work with fellow film makers,
Ned C
My question to Thurso is "How do we get to see your films?" Visited your website, looks very interesting, would love to see your work. In spite of its obvious limitations with video we can share our productions and there are various "robins" circulating tapes and disks to small audiences; but being seen with feedback to the makers. I have received two e-mail comments on shorts on the AMPS disk and passed the comments back to the film makers who were deeply grateful for them.
The other interesting point is that with the advent of HDV and large screen TV/surround sound the gap between the cinema experience and the home experience has narrowed. Cinema attendance in the USA is declining with DVD sales and rentals rising. I know that a visit to the cinema with an audience is a shared experience but I find myself increasingly distanced from the audience and the sound coming through the
walls from the cinemas on each side as "Spiderman" is played at full throttle is very distracting. Here's to more films on the internet (hope we get broadband soon) and the various robins who share their work with fellow film makers,
Ned C
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Dave Watterson
Re: Small or large?
I always swore by the cinema effect ... but like you, Ned, I find being in most multiplex audiences an unsatisfactory experience. I don't remember snogging couples in the back rows being as loud as they are now, the slurping of soft drinks and chomping of various foodstuffs has increased significantly, the soundproofing is often inadequate ... but it is conversations between patrons in person or on their cell phones which annoys me most.
I prefer to catch professional films with a film-society audience and amateur ones at a festival. In both cases the audience is considerate and polite to each other and the film makers.
The second-best option is our video projector and sound system at home playing DVDs.
We watched ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND the other night. An intriguing movie and all the tricks done without computer wizardry. I don't have anything against CGI but it is good to see that the cheaper ways do still work if you have the talent of a Sam Mendes in charge. As amateurs we can do those
tricks even if much computer trickery is still beyond us.
Our "happy film" of the moment is BOUNDIN - the short tucked away on disc 2 of THE INCREDIBLES ...
Maybe we can set up some sort of 3-D cinema effect on our broadband showcases and insert tiny heads at the bottom of the picture to give us the feeling of watching in a crowd.
Dave (Nostalgic) W.
I prefer to catch professional films with a film-society audience and amateur ones at a festival. In both cases the audience is considerate and polite to each other and the film makers.
The second-best option is our video projector and sound system at home playing DVDs.
We watched ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND the other night. An intriguing movie and all the tricks done without computer wizardry. I don't have anything against CGI but it is good to see that the cheaper ways do still work if you have the talent of a Sam Mendes in charge. As amateurs we can do those
tricks even if much computer trickery is still beyond us.
Our "happy film" of the moment is BOUNDIN - the short tucked away on disc 2 of THE INCREDIBLES ...
Maybe we can set up some sort of 3-D cinema effect on our broadband showcases and insert tiny heads at the bottom of the picture to give us the feeling of watching in a crowd.
Dave (Nostalgic) W.
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Cinema For Thurso Group
Re: Small or large?
Boundin was shown in cinemas prior to the start of The Incredibles! I saw it 35ft wide in Inverness.
Our web page is small.
Our web page states that we film both cine and video with 2x anamorphic lens.
Our screening venue- Skinandi's Nightclub (former Picture House Cinema, Thurso) enables our films to be seen on 2 big screens by video projection and 9 TV screen throughout the venue. We create original hand-drawn artwork to add to scenes and add or mix in still photography with live-action layers and animation.
Our special effects are produced on the pc using photographic software.
Super 8mm is our prime choice of format but not our limit of production. We realise cinema as an all-embracing art form using all media forms appropriate to the project in hand.
If I had the money to open a cinema I wouldn't stop at film only.
Our web page is small.
Our web page states that we film both cine and video with 2x anamorphic lens.
Our screening venue- Skinandi's Nightclub (former Picture House Cinema, Thurso) enables our films to be seen on 2 big screens by video projection and 9 TV screen throughout the venue. We create original hand-drawn artwork to add to scenes and add or mix in still photography with live-action layers and animation.
Our special effects are produced on the pc using photographic software.
Super 8mm is our prime choice of format but not our limit of production. We realise cinema as an all-embracing art form using all media forms appropriate to the project in hand.
If I had the money to open a cinema I wouldn't stop at film only.