Burlesque
- John Simpson
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Burlesque
Burlesque is a film by the "Dorset Originals" for the IAC Summer Film Making Challenge. The theme it was made to was "Script Tease" and it was limited to 5 minutes long and 48 hours to make the film. The making of the film went well, but acting,directing and filming this type of film is tiring especially towards the end of the session; and mistakes can be made, but we did ok and got all the clips needed. The editing went well.
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- Dave Watterson
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Thanks for sharing, John. Bonus marks for the brave lady star!
Anyone else care to share their films?
Anyone else care to share their films?
- John Simpson
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Thanks for watching the film Dave, our film has been described as gloriously bonkers! For our non-film friends who have watched the film from a link on Facebook they may have no idea what a 48 hour film challenge is. It is entertaining even if not completly understood.
Yes there were seven other films made, others could put the link in here
Yes there were seven other films made, others could put the link in here
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I share this one, never entered into a comp. for all editors
out there who love transitions
There's plenty here all to matching music !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p3bSkj ... e=youtu.be
- Dave Watterson
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Some of our younger readers may not recall the arguments for and against transitions at the time when it became possible to do them electronically and every manufacturer boasted of how many their system offered. Some of us lost sight of straight cuts or simple fades.
Your film, Albert, pokes such cheerful fun at the over-egged puddings which sometimes resulted ...
Your film, Albert, pokes such cheerful fun at the over-egged puddings which sometimes resulted ...
- John Simpson
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Fear of the new!
I suppose when "electronic transitions" came in there was a lot of opposition, just as we now also hear a lot of criticism of too much drone footage today. I tend to put a bit of vignetting on my films, to try and give a bit of continuity to the clips. I've done it on Burlesque. Perhaps I've not had any criticism for it because most of what I do is old hat! All I need is a basic editing program which works! I edited Burlesque on Adobe Premier Elements 11, which is a program my computer old can cope with. Even learning to use all the features of a basic editing program can take a while with a lot of ah-ha moments.
I suppose when "electronic transitions" came in there was a lot of opposition, just as we now also hear a lot of criticism of too much drone footage today. I tend to put a bit of vignetting on my films, to try and give a bit of continuity to the clips. I've done it on Burlesque. Perhaps I've not had any criticism for it because most of what I do is old hat! All I need is a basic editing program which works! I edited Burlesque on Adobe Premier Elements 11, which is a program my computer old can cope with. Even learning to use all the features of a basic editing program can take a while with a lot of ah-ha moments.
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I think Premier Elements 11 is amazing. Although I don't do much film making (if any lately), I do experiment a lot with visual effects and have found PE11 to be very useful even though it's not an effects package as such.
John makes a good point about learning to use new software, which is why I find something and stick with it then I'm not continually climbing up a learning curve.
"Perfection is the enemy of good enough" as I believe the Germans say and I for one would rather spend my time using something that's maybe a little old rather than having to learn something new, especially if the new has to be hired by the month and not bought for a one-off fee.
John makes a good point about learning to use new software, which is why I find something and stick with it then I'm not continually climbing up a learning curve.
"Perfection is the enemy of good enough" as I believe the Germans say and I for one would rather spend my time using something that's maybe a little old rather than having to learn something new, especially if the new has to be hired by the month and not bought for a one-off fee.
- Dave Watterson
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My worst experience with editing software was some years ago. I was to be on the jury for a film festival in Austria and the organisers insisted that each jury member bring a film they had made, which would be evaluated by the audience!
I don't make competition films as a rule, but decided to try. My old camcorder died on me so I bought another second-hand from a fellow IAC enthusiast. I had been editing on Adobe Premier since the first tutorial weekends run by David Jackson under the auspices of the IAC. That system died. In the end I used four separate editing programs - often on their "free trial week" basis to cobble together a film.
It made sense that all editing systems are doing the same things, but the variety of ways they had to describe them and the convoluted system of menus and options they demanded to achieve those things ... aaaargh!
I don't make competition films as a rule, but decided to try. My old camcorder died on me so I bought another second-hand from a fellow IAC enthusiast. I had been editing on Adobe Premier since the first tutorial weekends run by David Jackson under the auspices of the IAC. That system died. In the end I used four separate editing programs - often on their "free trial week" basis to cobble together a film.
It made sense that all editing systems are doing the same things, but the variety of ways they had to describe them and the convoluted system of menus and options they demanded to achieve those things ... aaaargh!
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My first dozen films were on 16 mm. No editing cuts at all as editing
was done 'in camera' !
The only 16mm splicing I have ever done is joining one 100 ft film to the next 100ft.
My editing these days is done using NCH Video Pad.
was done 'in camera' !
The only 16mm splicing I have ever done is joining one 100 ft film to the next 100ft.
My editing these days is done using NCH Video Pad.
- John Simpson
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I have often thought it would be good to have an old fashioned film night at film clubs. We could have one night for 8mm, another night for 9.5, and a 16mm meeting. The smells, the sounds the flickering light, maybe even a film break and of course the rewinds.
I have run some old family films recently and experienced all those things - it does take you back. Some of the films were as bad now as when they were made! When perhaps in my memory I had imagined them golden!
I have run some old family films recently and experienced all those things - it does take you back. Some of the films were as bad now as when they were made! When perhaps in my memory I had imagined them golden!
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I totally agree that some of the modern editing systems do rather 'over egg' the process. When we edited on film, as I did in both 8mm and 16mm for over ten years, straight cuts and the occasional mix or fade, was all we needed. The range of digital tricks available today is mind blowing but, in my opinion, does nothing for the quality of the finished article, sometimes they are greatly to its detriment.
I have only used one editing system since abandoning film in 1996, Media 100, whose process was very similar to that of film editing and one that I would hate to change. It is regarded as utterly out of date and no longer supported but there is a hard core of devotees still, many of them professionals.
I have only used one editing system since abandoning film in 1996, Media 100, whose process was very similar to that of film editing and one that I would hate to change. It is regarded as utterly out of date and no longer supported but there is a hard core of devotees still, many of them professionals.
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Not bad at all John. Love the silent film type style for the "act". Even though it's colour it works well. You kept the tempo up too and Helen (?) really excelled (she looked so natural in the role methinks she might have been a saucy dancer in a previous life!)John Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:04 am Burlesque is a film by the "Dorset Originals" for the IAC Summer Film Making Challenge.
Well done!
Tim
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Proud to be an amateur film maker - I do it for the love of it
- John Simpson
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Thanks for watching the film Tim, may put it in the SoCo comp next year. I like the 48 hour challenge, it suits my personality. This is the 3rd year we've entered a film and in my opinion the best of the 3. We had to pay to hire the hall and it as perfect.