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Ian Gardner

Music people use

Post by Ian Gardner » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:13 am

Dear all,
Long time to see. I`ve still kept in touch, I visit this forum daily! Now
the question.
Not being able to go to these film festivals. Waiting for the kids to grow
up. Not long I hope. The quesion is music.
I have a music licence (bought from here for £8.00 quid. Very good value.
It allows us to copy music from cd`s and use them in our productions as long
as we don`t make any profit from it. So far so good.
Not seeing any members films. I wondered what other people do.
Do you use others music or do you do your own?
Am I the only person who uses others music?
I sometimes use a whole piece of music for a competition if the comp rules
say. For example Music to video comp.
I also use snippets of music and slow it down. Certain pieces of music make
good eeriee sounds for thrillers etc so these are used as sound effects.
I feel as long as it`s tastefull and doesn`t slander the music publisher
or recording artist then it`s ok. If they saw the film they may like it.

Anyway, most of the modern music has been sampled from other music anyway.
They ARE making a profit. We are not. We are doing it because we love to
make films. It`s fun. It shows people what we can do. It gets us noticed.
We want to better ourselves and try to win competitions. Is this what it`s
about.
Trying to stay legal as best as possible. It`s a good job we try and stick
to the rules. We don`t want to become Chavs!

Thanks guys. Be good to your mums and dads.

Ian Gardner.

Fraught

Re: Music people use

Post by Fraught » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:43 am

I'm a bit of a mixed bag. I often use music from film scores, etc.

I also use alot of local group music. I go round collecting Demo Tapes from
local bands and ask for their permission to use their music in one of my
films, giving them the appropriate credit of course. They are always happy
for me to use their stuff. I thoroughly recommend this, as you are not only
helping your own production, but you are spreading the word of local musical
talent... you never know, you may be using the next Coldplay's tracks! :-)
I used a couple of tracks by a band called Papa Brittle in one of my films,
they actually got a record deal and we're reasonably successful in the states...


Also, being in a band myself, i've started composing stuff to fit my films
myself... i still need some practice at this!



"Ian Gardner" <forums@theiac.org.uk> wrote:
Dear all,
Long time to see. I`ve still kept in touch, I visit this forum daily! Now
the question.
Not being able to go to these film festivals. Waiting for the kids to grow
up. Not long I hope. The quesion is music.
I have a music licence (bought from here for £8.00 quid. Very good value.
It allows us to copy music from cd`s and use them in our productions as
long
as we don`t make any profit from it. So far so good.
Not seeing any members films. I wondered what other people do.
Do you use others music or do you do your own?
Am I the only person who uses others music?
I sometimes use a whole piece of music for a competition if the comp rules
say. For example Music to video comp.
I also use snippets of music and slow it down. Certain pieces of music make
good eeriee sounds for thrillers etc so these are used as sound effects.
I feel as long as it`s tastefull and doesn`t slander the music publisher
or recording artist then it`s ok. If they saw the film they may like it.

Anyway, most of the modern music has been sampled from other music anyway.
They ARE making a profit. We are not. We are doing it because we love to
make films. It`s fun. It shows people what we can do. It gets us noticed.
We want to better ourselves and try to win competitions. Is this what it`s
about.
Trying to stay legal as best as possible. It`s a good job we try and stick
to the rules. We don`t want to become Chavs!

Thanks guys. Be good to your mums and dads.

Ian Gardner.

Cinema For Thurso Group

Re: Music people use

Post by Cinema For Thurso Group » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:08 pm

We use whatever fits the picture and cut or extend tracks where required.
Much time is spent scouring inlay cards for that all important British recording
studio- don't you just hate blank inlays? We also want to use local musicians
and have some willing interest from our local orchestra who occasionally
play in unison, bless em! So far we haven't gotten down to using local artists
but we will eventually. In all it comes down to it that like all else in
film, you use what is appropriate to enable the telling of the story.

Ian Gardner

Re: Music people use

Post by Ian Gardner » Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:07 pm

"Fraught" <nothing@nothing.com> wrote:
I'm a bit of a mixed bag. I often use music from film scores, etc.

I also use alot of local group music. I go round collecting Demo Tapes from
local bands and ask for their permission to use their music in one of my
films, giving them the appropriate credit of course. They are always happy
for me to use their stuff. I thoroughly recommend this, as you are not only
helping your own production, but you are spreading the word of local musical
talent... you never know, you may be using the next Coldplay's tracks! :-)
I used a couple of tracks by a band called Papa Brittle in one of my films,
they actually got a record deal and we're reasonably successful in the states...
That is a very good idea. There are quite a few groups in our area. Our
neibour has a son who played in his group at his sisters wedding. They were
very good. They also lpayed at the Isle of Wight festival last week in one
of the tents. I`m mean`t to be doing a `Pop Video` for them.

Ian Gardner.

Ian Gardner

Re: Music people use

Post by Ian Gardner » Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:15 pm

"Cinema For Thurso Group" <canuimagine@btopenworld.com> wrote:
We use whatever fits the picture and cut or extend tracks where required.
Much time is spent scouring inlay cards for that all important British recording
studio- don't you just hate blank inlays? We also want to use local musicians
and have some willing interest from our local orchestra who occasionally
play in unison, bless em! So far we haven't gotten down to using local artists
but we will eventually. In all it comes down to it that like all else in
film, you use what is appropriate to enable the telling of the story.
Also a good idea. Sometimes a snipet of music is needed. You might want
a slow serious piece of music. Even for this a heavy rock piece with a slow
bit might work. I listen to music differently now. If I here a good piece
of music or sound. I make a mentle note of it. I may use it sometime.

Ian Gardner

Cinema For Thurso Group

Re: Music people use

Post by Cinema For Thurso Group » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:48 am

Another way in which we use music is to create stories, ideas and scenes.
Music, especially orchestral, is constructed in forms that have particular
meanings and sublime suggestions. the slightest variation in structure can
transform the interpritation. We often use music playback to create the story
we are working on. We have a full length feature screenplay which was fleshed
out in writing by the suggestions of the "writing score". We put together
a selection of music pieces and cues which we feel tell the basic story.
The writer then takes the notes and synopsis and sits through the music repeatedly
and pretty soon the film builds up in the mind. There then comes a few months
writing like a mad thing and hey-presto, Bod's your aunty on weekends- one
complete screenplay!
Some of our stories have been implied entirely by music.

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