Just spent the weekend running some of my old 16mm films in the projector
and transferring them to video. Quite enjoyed again, after many many years,
all that lacing up, thro the gate, over pulleys, round the sprockets, round
the Mulberry bush, and so to the take up spool.
But on one reel I had 3 films all spliced together. When running them
and copying them onto video I found that one of them ran upside down and
in reverse......you know the kinda thing, when the audience begins to boo
and catcall!
But I didn't stop the projector but went on copying. Then sitting in my
armchair I simple put the offending copied film on the timeline, selected
'vertical flip' and set speed at minus 100
instead of 100. Rendered for 5 minutes and Hey Presto, there was my film
right way up and running start to finish.
Is that shame on me again, Brian, taking the easy way out?
What would I do these days without NLE?
Albert....in upside down land.
In reverse and upside down.
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Atta Chui
Re: In reverse and upside down.
Kimoto (spelling?) is formal dress worn by Japanese women. The way you wearAlbert....in upside down land.
it is like wearing a bathrobe. So you can put the left hand side of the dress
on your body, then put the right hand side over it, or the other right round.
If, so far, you see what I mean...
I can't even remember the custom now, but depending on which side you fold
last, the correct way is fine, the wrong way is specially for dressing up
a dead person.
So when i did this film with my wife wearing one of these, she wore the wrong
way round. I had to do a horizontal flip to fix the problem. And since the
scene was done in a garden, I had to flip the whole garden too.
Atta
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Brian Hazelden
Re: In reverse and upside down.
"AN" <forums@theiac.org.uk> wrote:
The difference is that there would be no loss of quality by flipping the
image, whereas deducting the sound of the computer fan from your soundtrack
will (I think) limit the dynamic range.
Brian - limited dynamically
I'd have done the same, Albert.But I didn't stop the projector but went on copying. Then sitting in my
armchair I simple put the offending copied film on the timeline, selected
'vertical flip' and set speed at minus 100
instead of 100. Rendered for 5 minutes and Hey Presto, there was my film
right way up and running start to finish.
Is that shame on me again, Brian, taking the easy way out?
The difference is that there would be no loss of quality by flipping the
image, whereas deducting the sound of the computer fan from your soundtrack
will (I think) limit the dynamic range.
Brian - limited dynamically
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Dave Watterson
Re: In reverse and upside down.
Can't resist adding my favourite example of upside-down film action - though
I have seen many of them over the years.
It was in Edinburgh's Odeon cinema at a premiere for the Edinburgh Film Festival.
The cinema had been showing 'The Sound of Music' for many, many months and
presumably had got out of the habit of making up 35mm prints.
A capacity audience of enthusiasts and celebrities gathered in the plush
(red seats, gold curtains, fake marble statue effects)cinema. The house lights
dimmed leaving tiny twinkling stars in the high ceiling above. The immense
curtains swished open ... and the film began: a tiny square image in the
centre of a vast expanse of screen ... and upside-down.
When they reloaded and restarted it was still a small image, but that turned
out to be deliberate for the movie was a triptych and after a few minutes
other panels opened on the sides to make up a full screen image.
McDave of Nostalgia
I have seen many of them over the years.
It was in Edinburgh's Odeon cinema at a premiere for the Edinburgh Film Festival.
The cinema had been showing 'The Sound of Music' for many, many months and
presumably had got out of the habit of making up 35mm prints.
A capacity audience of enthusiasts and celebrities gathered in the plush
(red seats, gold curtains, fake marble statue effects)cinema. The house lights
dimmed leaving tiny twinkling stars in the high ceiling above. The immense
curtains swished open ... and the film began: a tiny square image in the
centre of a vast expanse of screen ... and upside-down.
When they reloaded and restarted it was still a small image, but that turned
out to be deliberate for the movie was a triptych and after a few minutes
other panels opened on the sides to make up a full screen image.
McDave of Nostalgia
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AN
Re: In reverse and upside down.
"Dave Watterson" <dave.movies@virgin.net> wrote:
to front/reversed left to right/ film coming off take up spools/framing error/loosing
the loop.
On that last point, my old monster of a projector is very 'lost loop' unfriendly.
Due to the big mechanical inertia it takes ages to stop if the loop is lost,
and it doesn't sense loss of loop automatically either. On the old Gebascope
(was it the L516?), there was a much better system in that as the loop was
lost the film hit a cut out lever and the projector auto stopped.
I find when projecting film I'm always on edge in case of film damage of
one sort or the other.
"The Nostalgiascope."
Albert....Nostalgialistic.
Yes, the video projectionist never gets any of these problems...upside down/backA capacity audience of enthusiasts and celebrities gathered in the plush
(red seats, gold curtains, fake marble statue effects)cinema. The house
lights
dimmed leaving tiny twinkling stars in the high ceiling above. The immense
curtains swished open ... and the film began: a tiny square image in the
centre of a vast expanse of screen ... and upside-down.
to front/reversed left to right/ film coming off take up spools/framing error/loosing
the loop.
On that last point, my old monster of a projector is very 'lost loop' unfriendly.
Due to the big mechanical inertia it takes ages to stop if the loop is lost,
and it doesn't sense loss of loop automatically either. On the old Gebascope
(was it the L516?), there was a much better system in that as the loop was
lost the film hit a cut out lever and the projector auto stopped.
I find when projecting film I'm always on edge in case of film damage of
one sort or the other.
Someone should open a cinema showing old films and call itMcDave of Nostalgia
"The Nostalgiascope."
Albert....Nostalgialistic.