lapel microphone

[tony williams]

Can someone please suggest a reasonably priced (below £100) lapel mic for
recording to mini disc at weddings.

Also an Insurance company for equipment and professional indemnity.

many thanks

[Michael Slowe]

"tony williams" <forums@theiac.org.uk> wrote:

Can someone please suggest a reasonably priced (below £100) lapel mic for
recording to mini disc at weddings.

Also an Insurance company for equipment and professional indemnity.

many thanks

AKG C417PP Phantom Powered Tie Clip Microphone £72.25 in 1998, brilliant
quality, brilliant mic.

[Brian Hazelden]

Can someone please suggest a reasonably priced (below £100) lapel mic for
recording to mini disc at weddings.

AKG C417PP Phantom Powered Tie Clip Microphone £72.25 in 1998, brilliant
quality, brilliant mic.

No doubt, but phantom power means connecting to a pro camera, mixer or phantom
power box. Mini disc is usually a mini-stereo jack. I've had surprisingly
good results with tie-clip mic's from Tandy, Jessops and Maplins, all under
£20. I've even used them for voice-overs.

Brian Hazelden

[Dave Watterson]

Wow! A bit of techie info that is actually relevant to me!

Thanks for those tips, Brian. I bought a minidisc recorder when my cassette
recorder died during a UNICA Festival in Holland and I wanted to record interviews
for the IAC website. It was a Dixons in Roermond that sold it to me but the
only mic they had was a huge mono one intended for a kiddy's karaoke machine.

That large mic had one advantage ... when in use it was obvious that recording
was going on and people did not interrupt as my victim and I chatted in the
corner of a lounge somewhere. When we took the minidisc on holiday to record
a nightly journal we used a mic supplied free with one of our computers -
tiny but effective.

Now that I really do want a lavalier-style clip-on ... I'll be off to the
shops this weekend.

But so far no one has tackled the other side of the original enquiry ...
insurance. IAC has arrangements for insuring clubs but not, I think, individuals.
Is this where the enquirer should approach BAVA or some other organisation
aimed more at semi-pro movie makers?

Dave (all ears) Watterson

[AN]

"Brian Hazelden" <brian_hazelden@lineone.net> wrote:

good results with tie-clip mic's from Tandy, Jessops and Maplins, all under
£20.

A little tip I've discovered for myself recently. Been doing hours of voice
recording at home. Only have a cheap Maplin's mic and no stand. Found that
hand holding the mic continuously for long periods led to odd finger movements
which the mic picked up.
So have just suspended the mic on a piece of string( notice the high tech
stuff!) from the ceiling, so that on sitting down in my favourite armchair,
the mic is at the right height.
Albert....taking the mic(key)!

[Brian Hazelden]

"AN" <AnimatioN@btopenworld.com> wrote:

So have just suspended the mic on a piece of string( notice the high tech
stuff!) from the ceiling, so that on sitting down in my favourite armchair,

the mic is at the right height.

Albert....taking the mic(key)!

I do my voice-overs sitting on the bed in the bedroom (soft furnishings kill
any reflected sound) with tie clip mic' at third shirt button height and
pointing downwards to reduce pops or snorts from the nostrils. I record in
mono to the mini-disc using automatic level control (most unusual for me),
I've found it works well if you give a 3-2-1 countdown before speaking. When
I make a fluff I simply repeat from the beginning of the last sentence, or
wherever, as I transfer the whole thing to PC and edit.

How do you do yours?

Brian

[AN]

"Brian Hazelden" <brian_hazelden@lineone.net> wrote:

"AN" <AnimatioN@btopenworld.com> wrote:

So have just suspended the mic on a piece of string( notice the high tech
stuff!) from the ceiling, so that on sitting down in my favourite armchair,
the mic is at the right height.
Albert....taking the mic(key)!

I do my voice-overs sitting on the bed in the bedroom (soft furnishings
kill
any reflected sound) with tie clip mic' at third shirt button height and
pointing downwards to reduce pops or snorts from the nostrils. I record
in
mono to the mini-disc using automatic level control (most unusual for me),
I've found it works well if you give a 3-2-1 countdown before speaking.
When
I make a fluff I simply repeat from the beginning of the last sentence,
or
wherever, as I transfer the whole thing to PC and edit.

How do you do yours?

Very much the same.
The fact that one can edit fluffs out so easily
on NLE actualy leads to less fluffs (except under the bed! Why does so much
fluff gather there?), because one is less nervous, in the knowledge that
all fluffs are easy afterwards anyway.....
....not using tape splicers anymore!

If a speaking error I go on and repeat sentence and all comes out in the
wash in the PC. I also record in mono as you do, but straight into the PC.
I have been using Goldwave as the mic was picking up some PC fan noise.....it's
easier to filter it out quickly on the PC than bother to move the mic to
a better position!!!!!
That's modern technology for you.
Albert...tech tock talk.

[Brian Hazelden]

"AN" <AnimatioN@btopenworld.com> wrote:

I also record in mono as you do, but straight into the PC.
I have been using Goldwave as the mic was picking up some PC fan noise.....it's
easier to filter it out quickly on the PC than bother to move the mic to
a better position!!!!!
That's modern technology for you.
Albert...tech tock talk.

The trick with audio is to make sure that you record what you want, but more
important is to make sure that you don't record what you don't want!

A clean soundtrack will always sound better than a "cleaned" soundtrack.

Shame on you, Albert.

Brian

[AN]

"Brian Hazelden" <brian_hazelden@lineone.net> wrote:

I have been using Goldwave as the mic was picking up some PC fan noise.....it's
easier to filter it out quickly on the PC than bother to move the mic to
a better position!!!!!
That's modern technology for you.
Albert...tech tock talk.

The trick with audio is to make sure that you record what you want, but
more
important is to make sure that you don't record what you don't want!

A clean soundtrack will always sound better than a "cleaned" soundtrack.

Shame on you, Albert.

Ah, well Brian you are one of these documentary film makers where clean sound
makes all the difference between 'tickling the judges ears' or 'tackling
the judges leers' if it's not clean!

Not so with my effort, which will never come in front of any judge. So,
altho shame on me, I do try harder on those films made with competitions
in mind....I hang the mic from a silken cord from the ceiling rather than
a piece of string!
Albert.....stringing em along.

[Ned C]

A recommended lavalier mic for use with the minidisk is the Azden EX-503,
price should about GBP 30.

Ned C

[Ken Wilson]

"tony williams" <forums@theiac.org.uk> wrote:

Can someone please suggest a reasonably priced (below £100) lapel mic for
recording to mini disc at weddings.

Hello Tony! See you have had a lot of replies to your query. I have never
used a tie clip myself. Voice overs, etc are recorded to mini disc via a
mixer using my usual MKE 300 Senneiser mike fixed at mouth height on a tripod.
Interviews in recent documentary`s have also been done this way with very
good results. Fixed to a tripod there is no handling noise.
A good source of advice on sound matters could be Keene Electronics who sell
all kinds of recording (and other) gadgets.
Hope this is of use. Ken.

[Paul Miley]

The Vivanco 09216 EM216 tie clip mic - supposedly 'ideal for video' is on
sale for under £25.00p including postage at Unbeatable.co.uk.

I read a very good report about this a while back. I think it has won a few
awards, and was unusual in that it was also a stereo mike. Handy.