Sorry to get techy but I am posting this question everywhere! Anyone using
external USB2 HDs for their editing? I have no space left in the box for
additional HDs and the local Staples have a good price on ext USB2 HDs, do
they work for editing? OS XP Home, edit software CineStream 3.1.
Thanks,
Ned Cordery
USB2 HDs
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AN
Re: USB2 HDs
"Ned Cordery" <goslands@infowest.com> wrote:
the Desktop video forum about USB2...have you read them, Ned? Mostly about
problems experienced!
You say no room inside PC for an extra drive...does that mean physical room
or lack of connectors? If the former (and you will cringe at this idea
no doubt, how about strapping an extra internal HDD on the OUTSIDE of the
casing and run the cabling
thro a slot left if you leave the side casing cover slightly loose!!! As
long as your rich customers don't see it!
Nasty eh? Just a thought.
Albert...being thoughtful.
I saw your posting on DV doctor on HDD forum...there are some letters onSorry to get techy but I am posting this question everywhere! Anyone using
external USB2 HDs for their editing? I have no space left in the box for
additional HDs and the local Staples have a good price on ext USB2 HDs,
do
they work for editing? OS XP Home, edit software CineStream 3.1.
the Desktop video forum about USB2...have you read them, Ned? Mostly about
problems experienced!
You say no room inside PC for an extra drive...does that mean physical room
or lack of connectors? If the former (and you will cringe at this idea
no doubt, how about strapping an extra internal HDD on the OUTSIDE of the
casing and run the cabling
thro a slot left if you leave the side casing cover slightly loose!!! As
long as your rich customers don't see it!
Nasty eh? Just a thought.
Albert...being thoughtful.
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Ned Cordery
Re: USB2 HDs
"AN" <AnimatioN@btopenworld.com> wrote:
(I had done it on the Frives section and got nothing of use) and although
it turned up a number of references no-one was actually using USB2 drives
to capture to. Rather trying to connect their camera output to their computer
using USB1!
so was purchased with a mini tower but now has my old friend CineStream (the
world's best NLE software now remaindered at B&H New York for USD99) on it
as a back-up to the main FCP suite(or TCP as you prefer). The mini tower
has one PCI slot, now with the ADS Pyro card installed, so we don't even
have another PCI slot. I suppose we could replace the on board 80gb drive
but using an external USB2 seemed such a simple solution as we have a USB2
port. Another lesson learnt, get the full size tower with lots of slots and
bays!
In the meantime I have had a positive response on a US(A) site so we will
give it a try and report back. However, I do like your idea of leaving the
door of the tower open, the Albert Improved Cooling & Heat Elimination System,
ACHES for short.
Cringeing with thanks,
Ned Cordery
Thanks for the suggestion, I went back and ran a search on Desk Top VideoI saw your posting on DV doctor on HDD forum...there are some letters on
the Desktop video forum about USB2...have you read them, Ned? Mostly about
problems experienced!
(I had done it on the Frives section and got nothing of use) and although
it turned up a number of references no-one was actually using USB2 drives
to capture to. Rather trying to connect their camera output to their computer
using USB1!
There is no physical room in the box, it is supposed to be the office computerYou say no room inside PC for an extra drive...does that mean physical room
or lack of connectors? If the former (and you will cringe at this idea
no doubt, how about strapping an extra internal HDD on the OUTSIDE of the
casing and run the cabling
thro a slot left if you leave the side casing cover slightly loose!!! As
long as your rich customers don't see it!
Nasty eh? Just a thought.
Albert...being thoughtful.
so was purchased with a mini tower but now has my old friend CineStream (the
world's best NLE software now remaindered at B&H New York for USD99) on it
as a back-up to the main FCP suite(or TCP as you prefer). The mini tower
has one PCI slot, now with the ADS Pyro card installed, so we don't even
have another PCI slot. I suppose we could replace the on board 80gb drive
but using an external USB2 seemed such a simple solution as we have a USB2
port. Another lesson learnt, get the full size tower with lots of slots and
bays!
In the meantime I have had a positive response on a US(A) site so we will
give it a try and report back. However, I do like your idea of leaving the
door of the tower open, the Albert Improved Cooling & Heat Elimination System,
ACHES for short.
Cringeing with thanks,
Ned Cordery
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AN
Re: USB2 HDs
"Ned Cordery" <goslands@infowest.com> wrote:
the past I have strapped HDDs into corners using
PVC tape!! If the PC isn't for resale, then a HDD can be 'plonked' anywhere,
in order to squeeze one in. It certainly doesn't have to go in a bay.
USB2 drives are pricey too for what you get compared with a std. internal.
Maybe a firewire drive would be more reliable, but then maybe you don't
have a firewire connection. Oh I did like the ol wireless sets when all
one had was a LS and GRAM socket!
unfastened, as I don't have any additional cooling fans installed.
Albert....a fan of the PC.
Well Ned a HDD isn't very big, even if all the bays and slots are full. InThere is no physical room in the box, it is supposed to be the office computer
the past I have strapped HDDs into corners using
PVC tape!! If the PC isn't for resale, then a HDD can be 'plonked' anywhere,
in order to squeeze one in. It certainly doesn't have to go in a bay.
USB2 drives are pricey too for what you get compared with a std. internal.
Maybe a firewire drive would be more reliable, but then maybe you don't
have a firewire connection. Oh I did like the ol wireless sets when all
one had was a LS and GRAM socket!
I always run my PC with the cover on the 'works' side of the PC slightlyHowever, I do like your idea of leaving the
door of the tower open
unfastened, as I don't have any additional cooling fans installed.
Albert....a fan of the PC.
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Michael Slowe
Re: USB2 HDs
"AN" <AnimatioN@btopenworld.com> wrote:
and particularly for the Media 100 and Final Cut Pro editing systems. By
the way I have probably mis understood the debate but why can't our friend
use external drives for his extra storage of media?
>
Albert why do you edit on a PC; Mac is so superior for all graphics work"Ned Cordery" <goslands@infowest.com> wrote:
There is no physical room in the box, it is supposed to be the office computer
Well Ned a HDD isn't very big, even if all the bays and slots are full.
In
the past I have strapped HDDs into corners using
PVC tape!! If the PC isn't for resale, then a HDD can be 'plonked' anywhere,
in order to squeeze one in. It certainly doesn't have to go in a bay.
USB2 drives are pricey too for what you get compared with a std. internal.
Maybe a firewire drive would be more reliable, but then maybe you don't
have a firewire connection. Oh I did like the ol wireless sets when all
one had was a LS and GRAM socket!
However, I do like your idea of leaving the
door of the tower open
I always run my PC with the cover on the 'works' side of the PC slightly
unfastened, as I don't have any additional cooling fans installed.
Albert....a fan of the PC.
and particularly for the Media 100 and Final Cut Pro editing systems. By
the way I have probably mis understood the debate but why can't our friend
use external drives for his extra storage of media?
>
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AN
Re: USB2 HDs
"Michael Slowe" <michael.slowe@btinternet.com> wrote:
Also as my film making is *only* object animation and I have already some
great software written for the PC to enable me to do this, then again this
is the devil I really do know.
I accept tho that the Mac is superior for computer graphics works.
of using. I was just trying to save him some money, by stuffing an internal
among the wiring
Albert....a short amongst the wiring.
Point taken, but I guess it's a case of the devil you know.Albert why do you edit on a PC; Mac is so superior for all >graphics work
Also as my film making is *only* object animation and I have already some
great software written for the PC to enable me to do this, then again this
is the devil I really do know.
I accept tho that the Mac is superior for computer graphics works.
Read Ned's first letter on this topic, for it was an external he was thinkingI have probably mis understood the debate but why can't our >friend use
external drives for his extra storage of media?
of using. I was just trying to save him some money, by stuffing an internal
among the wiring
Albert....a short amongst the wiring.
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Ned Cordery
Re: USB2 HDs
"Michael Slowe" <michael.slowe@btinternet.com> wrote:
has experience with external USB2 HDs. I do have a Firewire connection but
our local Staples (yes, we do have them in the USA) has a very good offer
on USB2 external HDs. Actually the situation is worse than you imagined,
Albert, the case is a MICRO, not even a mini, with a DVD drive and CD RW,
the Pyro in the only PCI slot its all jammed in tighter than the Central
Line on Friday evening. But this is what happens when I rejig the office
computer for a back-up edit suite.
Michael, I have been using FCP for just about a year now, currently FCP3,
and used Mac based programs for 4 years prior to that, including Media 100,
a massively overpriced program, but the PC and its OS have come a long way,
a properly configured PC is just as reliable as the Mac - its getting it
properly configured that's the challenge. A Mac is always a Mac but a PC
can be almost anything.
Ned Cordery
The problem is one of bays/space inside the case and I had asked if anyone
Albert why do you edit on a PC; Mac is so superior for all graphics work
and particularly for the Media 100 and Final Cut Pro editing systems. By
the way I have probably mis understood the debate but why can't our friend
use external drives for his extra storage of media?
has experience with external USB2 HDs. I do have a Firewire connection but
our local Staples (yes, we do have them in the USA) has a very good offer
on USB2 external HDs. Actually the situation is worse than you imagined,
Albert, the case is a MICRO, not even a mini, with a DVD drive and CD RW,
the Pyro in the only PCI slot its all jammed in tighter than the Central
Line on Friday evening. But this is what happens when I rejig the office
computer for a back-up edit suite.
Michael, I have been using FCP for just about a year now, currently FCP3,
and used Mac based programs for 4 years prior to that, including Media 100,
a massively overpriced program, but the PC and its OS have come a long way,
a properly configured PC is just as reliable as the Mac - its getting it
properly configured that's the challenge. A Mac is always a Mac but a PC
can be almost anything.
Ned Cordery
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AN
Re: USB2 HDs
"Ned Cordery" <goslands@infowest.com> wrote:
sardine on seing a submarine asked his mum what it was and what were those
things inside it.
Mum replied, " Oh, it's only a tin with humans packed in it."
Ah, Utah's a long way from the ol Central Line....if it's of any interest
I used to sleep down on the Central Line during WW2.
What fun that used to be for us kids running about the platforms!
Pity I didn't make a film of it!
Albert....not a PC with a mac on.
Just like sardines in a tin, as I recall. Joke heard this week.... Babythe Pyro in the only PCI slot its all jammed in tighter than >the Central
Line on Friday evening.
sardine on seing a submarine asked his mum what it was and what were those
things inside it.
Mum replied, " Oh, it's only a tin with humans packed in it."
Ah, Utah's a long way from the ol Central Line....if it's of any interest
I used to sleep down on the Central Line during WW2.
What fun that used to be for us kids running about the platforms!
Pity I didn't make a film of it!
Normally it's a damn nuisance!A Mac is always a Mac but a PC
can be almost anything.
Albert....not a PC with a mac on.