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CS5 manual

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:45 pm
by Roy1
Has anyone got a Manual for Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 they wish to part with. "Classroom in a book" would be just the ticket. I have plenty of tutorials but they don't tell me everything I want to know. I will pay any reasonable price.

Re: CS5 manual

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:29 pm
by FredD
Roy,
If you are not aware of 'Creative Cow', then you might find some of their free tutorials usefull, while you search for your perfect PP CS5 manual !
Try here : http://library.creativecow.net/tutorials/

Fred D.

Re: CS5 manual

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:10 am
by Roy1
Fred D. Thanks for your interest. I have herard of Creative Cow and have now and then used their output. I have many tutorials, but they don't tell you how to fix things when the programme does things it shouldn't.

Re: CS5 manual

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:01 pm
by col lamb
Roy

Do you visit tv.adobe?

They have masses of video's there

If you have a specific problem then why not post it here, many of us use Premiere

Re: CS5 manual

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:51 am
by Roy1
Thanks to all who made suggestions. I am happy to say that I have now obtained a second hand "Classroom in a book" from a reputable dealer at a fair price.

Re: CS5 manual

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:39 am
by Chrisbitz
Roy1 wrote:Fred D. Thanks for your interest. I have herard of Creative Cow and have now and then used their output. I have many tutorials, but they don't tell you how to fix things when the programme does things it shouldn't.
If the program's doing things it shouldn't, isn't that a bug? Do classroom in a books cover that sort of thing?

when I find bugs, I go to the Adobe community forums, they're usually really helpful.

Re: CS5 manual

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:15 am
by Roy1
You are all probally right in what you advocate and you are all very helpful. It's most likely my fault but when I ask questions in various forums, I don't understand the jargon people use to enable me to solve the problem. They seem to think that everyone knows as much as they do, and most of us don't. I am just a video maker who uses the basic methods of production. . I don't pretend to know all about bitrates etc when making DVD's and Blu-rays. I just let the programme get on with it automatically, and most of the time it does. Although I no longer use Vegas, their built in tutorials are the best I've come across, why can't all other NLE's do the same. I am currently having a couple of problems with certain aspects of editing with CS5, but not being completely senile I can work round them, but I am hoping that the manual I have obtained might explain and cure the problems.

Re: CS5 manual

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:09 pm
by Ian Woodward
[It's most likely my fault but when I ask questions in various forums, I don't understand the jargon people use to enable me to solve the problem. They seem to think that everyone knows as much as they do, and most of us don't. I am just a video maker who uses the basic methods of production.
I totally agree with you, Roy1. I try to avoid such forums for the same reason.

Ian Woodward

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Re: CS5 manual

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:37 pm
by Chrisbitz
Personally, if someone says something in a forum that I don't understand, (Which happens plenty!) I say so, and ask them to explain.

I've never had anything but full, helpful and courteous responses. Their first reply was because they *wanted* to help!

Books seem to create more questions than answers, as they're not interactive if you fail to understand something.

Re: CS5 manual

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:38 pm
by TimStannard
I'm in full agreement with Chris here. Often the first answer might be full of assumptions or jargon you don't understand because it is a form of shorthand and your correspondent will obviously not want to waste his (or her) or your time explaining stuff you already know. This should not be taken as an unwillingness to spend more time explaining in more detail, if required.

Very often on another forum, someone might begin with "Sorry if this is a stupid question, but ...." to which the answer invariably begins "The stupid move would be not asking the question"

In my experience, people on forums, paricularly hobby forums, genuinely do want to help and are always mindful that the knowledge they are now imparting is knowledge that they once didn't have.

However, I'm also a fan of reading books and manuals in bed. I find that better for study, but forums better for Q&A (and discussion)

Re: CS5 manual

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:55 am
by col lamb
I agree with you guys, many years ago when I started PC editing with Premiere 4.1 (not CS4, Adobe reset their numbering with Premiere Pro) I got the Adobe book, the video tutorials that came with it were very good but the text left a lot to be desired.

There is plenty of online help and tutorials available and even now I still use them as the functions that are available in your editing and disc creation software if you know how to use them are astonishing. On the Edius forum there is an amazing video tutorial on colour correction which I watched the other day, learned a lot about Edius that I did not know it could do.

An IAC member was having trouble with exporting a movie in Edius and I made a short video tutorial for them and uploaded it onto my section of the Vimeo web site it only took about 15 minutes but if it helps someone make a movie that I do not mind the time it takes me

Whatever editing system you use you will find it far easier if you learn a little more than the basics, J and L cuts are a simple thing to do but not many use them to good effects, also in Premiere learning how to use the ripple, slip and slide editing modes will really improve your editing skills (see my edting tutorial on Vimeo if you do not know what I am talking about)