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Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:06 pm
by Godfrey
Is there anyone please in the London region who could spare an hour or two explaining how to upload video to facebook, Vimeo or Youtube to get the best quality of HD footage?

Thanks

Re: Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:48 am
by tom hardwick
There's many a tutorial on YT such as this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w-gQAwS2uc

and the same applies to Vimeo.

Re: Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:01 am
by Godfrey
Hi Tom. Trust you are well and not getting too many people sending you the wrong wedding films to edit as per your article!

I am doing a series of interviews but have yet to decide how they will be distributed, thus the reason to compare embedding facebook to You tube and Vimeo. Yes I know about the on line tutorials but there is nothing to beat sitting down with someone ( or standing up as I did with you!) to learn a new craft thus the reasaon for asking for someone to help on a one to one basis.

Best wishes

Godfrey

Re: Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:31 pm
by tom hardwick
Hi Godfrey - I think it comes down to the bitter fact that whatever you send these video hosts will be re-transcoded yet again to suit their servers and their clients. So the best advice is to send them the highest quality file you can, knowing it'll be downgraded by all the obstacles in the path from them to your customers, which includes slow broadband and iffy routers. Image

I think a lot of people need showing how they can view YouTube full screen and in hi-def, too.

tom.

Re: Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:51 pm
by col lamb
Godfrey

Tom has given you some excellent advice.

With most of the latest versions of editing software such as Edius and Premiere I built into them is a series of exporters specifically for Youtube and Vimeo.

Of the two Vimeo is certainly for more serious movies and is populated with more like minded souls but to upload HD you have to be a paid subscriber, I do not know about Youtube as I watch but do not post there

A search on Google "vimeo upload movie tutorial" returns 1900000 answers so there is plenty of advice it just takes some sorting

If you advise what editing software you use we can perhaps advise more

Re: Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:21 pm
by Godfrey
Thanks Tom and Col.

Taking tips off the internet is fine but this time around I really need to discuss my personal needs with someone sitting at a monitor. I am about to enter the world of social networking and Vimeo and Youtube may be old hat for the type of people I will be uploading to if I want to embed into a blog or facebook

Thanks anyway.

Godfrey

Re: Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:45 pm
by Dave Watterson
I hesitate to dip my toe into this specialist area with the experts already on hand ... but if your work is to be seen on the widest range of social media and on the whole range of kit from smart-phones upwards ... I suggest YouTube should be first priority. Its business depends on it being accessible in all those formats and on running dependably.
Vimeo gives better quality - but the price (at least for me) is that it often sticks and hesitates. That is OK when I want to watch a specific film, because I will wait until it has all streamed and then play it. But if your filmed material is mainly to be used as illustrative clips in blogs etc, it needs to play easily without such delays. People using social media tend to be very impatient. The way you write about it suggests that the content of the interviews is much more important than the video quality ... that is different from most forum readers, who want to show off their films to best effect at the hightest practical quality.

If you never expect the work to be viewed full-screen on its own, then you can also save yourself a LOT of time by uploading lower quality video.

I hope someone near you can help.

Dave

Re: Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:40 pm
by Godfrey
Thanks Dave but I think you overlook the fact that those impatient to check out videos on social network sites tend to have the latest high quality viewing screens like tablets. Another reason I need someone well briefed in this type of uploading

Re: Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:13 pm
by Peter B
col lamb wrote: Of the two Vimeo is certainly for more serious movies and is populated with more like minded souls but to upload HD you have to be a paid subscriber, I do not know about Youtube as I watch but do not post there
Col, You don't have to be a paid subscriber to upload HD video to Vimeo, but you are restricted to one HD upload per week.

Another point about Vimeo is that it displays and embeds HD videos in HD by default so you're not dependent on the viewer selecting HD as you are on YouTube, Vimeo also gives you much more control over how your videos are presented (paid subscribers can even remove the Vimeo branding on embeds).

But if you want to get your video "out there" then YouTube is probably the best option as it's the most widely known of the two.

Re: Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:14 am
by tom hardwick
Dave, I see you said, 'Vimeo gives better quality - but the price (at least for me) is that it often sticks and hesitates.' And I thought it was just me with my semi-broadband and iffy router. I too brace myself when opening a Vimeo film, as even in the SD mode I'm pretty sure it's going to stick and buffer and annoy me. YouTube on the other hand flies even in HD, so it's made me wary of Vimeo.

Re: Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:06 pm
by TimStannard
I must be in an agreeable mood as I agree with everyone on this.
Firstly, my experience of watching Vimeo is similar to Dave's and Tom's. I generally kck it off and pause immediately to let the whole film buffer rather than risk the film be spoilt by stuttering mid way through. I have a 30Mbps cable connection (and get >25Mbps). YouTube is rarely an issue.

Secondly film makers choose Vimeo because of its quality and because it is seen a a more serious platform. However, everyone uses YouTube. Searches return YouTube hits higher up. On the phone you can say "Go to YouTube and type in XYZ" and the person on the other end only has to remember/write down XYZ. If you say "Go to Vimeo and type in XYZ" the chances are people will say "go to where?" and get distracted by whether it's .co.uk or .com. and how to spell Vimeo before even taking note of the XYZ. In a nutshell YouTube will produce many, many more hits.

Case in point: A while back a fellow Staines member and I came across a man "Tuckpointing" - a specialist form of historic brick pointing. Long story short, my colleague filmed it and I edited it into a very short film. I put it on YouTube basically to show to other members of Staines and another forum I contribute to. Now, without any promotion whatsoever other than sensible tags, this video has recived > 32,500 hits outperforming any of my other videos by a factor of more than 25. These will almost certainly be for people looking for a "howto" film about pointing or bricklaying (this is bourne out by the fact that it's ability to retain an audience is significantly higher than the average for the duration until the job is finished and the credits roll - at which point it plummets.

I doubt anyone would have found it on Vimeo. At least not without specifying Vimeo in the search.

(Incidentally, anyone who's interested can find that video by going to YouTube and typing in "tuckpointing". It'll be one of the first listed - my username is stanmanjam [I know, I know ... panic set in when "timstannard" was taken and I reverted to a nickname I had as a 10 year old]. Alternatively - here's a direct link http://youtu.be/TyNY_MU62iA

It's a very simple 2.5 min film. It's probably the simplest edit I've ever done, yet I believe one of my best - the subject spioke so well he made it easy. The only real issue is that it started raining and so in some shots there was a blue cast caused by the tarpaulin held over the work.)

Re: Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:03 pm
by Godfrey
Thank you Tim but this post started with a request for on site training to upload video to social networking sites vis a vis Youtube and vimeo

Re: Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:02 pm
by TimStannard
Godfrey wrote:Thank you Tim but this post started with a request for on site training to upload video to social networking sites vis a vis Youtube and vimeo
Good point. I guess we have veered more than a little off topic. Apologies :oops:

Re: Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:16 am
by col lamb
Godfrey

If you are not having any joy getting face to face tuition there are alternative, but first we need to know what Editing software you use and its version number.

I have produced a few video tutorials on exporting a movie for upload but as yet I have not posted them online as I made them specifically for showing at presentations I make to local Clubs.

You can always get someone who knows about exporting with your particular editing software to take remote control of your PC and talk you through the process, hence why it is vital that we know what you use to edit: manufacturer and version (Premiere CS5.5, Edius Neo 3 etc)

Uploading is not restricted to one site or another, upload everywhere you want, producing a video for uploading is fairly easy.

Re: Uploading videos to facebook, youtube and vimeo

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:37 am
by Roy1
Godfrey. If I was near London I would help you, so I apologise for this intrusion but I want to thank Tim for his input. Tim thankyou for giving your YouTube name. I've mentioned this before but I feel that I am banging my head against a brick wall. I asked why someone could compile a list of peoples youtube names. Surely the idea of posting to youtube is for other people to view your work. How can they( apart from friends) if they don't know how to find your work. I apologise again for veering off the subject.