******COMING SUMMER 2004 GODDAMN THE MOVIE*******

[Rick Batanica]

http://www.goddamnthemovie.com


This film was made 5 years ago in college by me and a group of buddies. It
has nothing to do about religion. It is simply a comedy based on a character
(Goddamn) who is a complete prick to everybody he meets. There is two trailers
up right now..enjoy

Visit the site.

http://www.goddamnthemovie.com

[AN]

"Rick Batanica" <forums@theiac.org.uk> wrote:

http://www.goddamnthemovie.com


This film was made 5 years ago in college by me and a group of buddies.
It
has nothing to do about religion. It is simply a comedy based on a character
(Goddamn) who is a complete prick to everybody he meets.

How about a film about somone who is an INcomplete prick?
That would only be a wee film I suppose!
Albert...being excused.

[Cinema For Thurso Group]

"AN" <AnimatioN@btopenworld.com> wrote:

"Rick Batanica" <forums@theiac.org.uk> wrote:

http://www.goddamnthemovie.com


This film was made 5 years ago in college by me and a group of buddies.
It
has nothing to do about religion. It is simply a comedy based on a character
(Goddamn) who is a complete prick to everybody he meets.

How about a film about somone who is an INcomplete prick?
That would only be a wee film I suppose!
Albert...being excused.
Well the incomplete prick worked alongside me just before christmas. He

had the looks to get himself a nice girl and was clever but not enough to
realise how his attitude shot him in the foot. So we sacked the little prick
and he still hasn't learnt. What a prick!

[Dave Watterson]

This thread is getting weird, but that's the power of viral
marketing ... the producer's posting has got us going and
repeating the message that the movie is coming soon.

The website is good - all the marketing is in place already.
It is hard to tell from the trailers what the movie itself
might be like. What I admire is the enterprise and initiative
involved. A few months ago we were writing about how hard it
is to get an audience, to show our work ... and these guys
are just going out and grabbing an audience.

I'd quite like to see some elements of that sort of pizzazz
in part of the amateur world. It does not suit everyone
and would be inappropriate for some work.

What's the most unusual promotion stunts you have come across
either for your own or other people's movies?

Dave

[matt]

Its all guerilla marketing. Gotta love it....really popular in the skateboard
community. This movie really is funny. When the movie is released on DVD
in the Summer, we will load on a 3rd trailer that will put everthing in prospective.
Until then...bookmark the site! www.goddamnthemovie.com

Thanks to all who have checked out the site.
Promote underground films!!
matt-



"Dave Watterson" <david.filmsocs@virgin.net> wrote:

This thread is getting weird, but that's the power of viral
marketing ... the producer's posting has got us going and
repeating the message that the movie is coming soon.

The website is good - all the marketing is in place already.
It is hard to tell from the trailers what the movie itself
might be like. What I admire is the enterprise and initiative
involved. A few months ago we were writing about how hard it
is to get an audience, to show our work ... and these guys
are just going out and grabbing an audience.

I'd quite like to see some elements of that sort of pizzazz
in part of the amateur world. It does not suit everyone
and would be inappropriate for some work.

What's the most unusual promotion stunts you have come across
either for your own or other people's movies?

Dave

[Cinema For Thurso Group]

Well here is exactly what amateur movie-makers should be doing, I've said
this before, stop begging for screening time, get out and arrange your own.

If we amateurs can plow so much of our hard earned cash into filming our
projects why should we stop the budget when the editing finishes. Plan a
production in two budget stages: A- Production costs, B- Marketing, Premiere
and public screenings. If you can pull a production together why is it that
so many amateurs fall to bits at the idea of exhibing films.
Go on, splash the cash on copyright licensing, you know if you are a properly
constituted group you can get funding from various sources for most areas
of film making and presentation. The bottom line is that it is up to you
to make the audience.

[AN]

"Cinema For Thurso Group" <canuimagine@btopenworld.com> wrote:

Go on, splash the cash on copyright licensing,

Nah, write your own (using music software). Then splash the cash
on something else.
If you can film/act/edit then you have sufficient IQ to
create music, so be adventurous and save some money, especially
with an e-mail "can you imagine." it should be easy.

Albert...imagination is king.

[Cinema For Thurso Group]

with an e-mail "can you imagine." it should be easy.

Have you read what I wrote about writing by music- that is to say that the
story idea can be colored and detailed by listening to the music you plan
to use in the film. A carefully chosen score (whoever wrote it)will add hugely
to your imagination as you write the film. Music is a language that speaks
beyond international borders and that's part of why orchestral music (perticularly
Beethoven or Mozart)temporarily increase the IQ whilst listening to it.

I guess I'm thinking of other writers music because the kind of material
CFT produces is in the fantasy genre which can't easily be embelished by
synthetic score no matter how good. It does require something more professional.
That aside I won't rule out any music sources as it has been an ongoing policy
of CFT to record local artists original works for possible tie-down to future
projects and we do have some original works in our files.
Well I can't read or write music but I can easily make it up but I don't
fancy having a score played by Accordion and keyboard which my dad does rather
well and as enthusiatic as the Caithness Orchestra is and individually talented
bunch including professional players, they play a somewhat loose orchestration
and have turned down requests film anyway.

[AN]

"Cinema For Thurso Group" <canuimagine@btopenworld.com> wrote:

with an e-mail "can you imagine." it should be easy.

Have you read what I wrote about writing by music- that is to say that
the
story idea can be colored and detailed by listening to the music you plan
to use in the film. A carefully chosen score (whoever wrote it)will add
hugely
to your imagination as you write the film. Music is a language that speaks
beyond international borders and that's part of why orchestral music (perticularly
Beethoven or Mozart)temporarily increase the IQ whilst listening to it.

You must forgive my mischievous nature but surely increase in IQ leads one

to spell 'particularly' correctly ! (see in brackets above)

Well I can't read or write music but I can easily make it up but I don't
fancy having a score played by Accordion and keyboard

You should borrow a copy of my tapes, "Animation animates any mate!" from
the IAC library (plug, plug!) where you will learn, that altho you may
not be able to read or write music (as I do not too!), 127 instruments
are now available to you to put quite acceptable pieces together using
modern looping techniques...
...it may not be Beethoven, but can be used in film....I have
now made 6 films using entirely my own created music, and I repeat,
I cannot read or write music either...if you would like to hear say,
12 samples give me your address (by private e-mail) and I will send
you a tape for you to discover what is possible.

Albert....music hath charm.

[Cinema For Thurso Group]

You weren't there that day my primary 7 teacher made 31 pupils mouths hit
the floor when she told them that I have an above-average IQ and was clevurrur
than the rest of them put together. Spelling errors are a marked sign of
higher intillect for the benafite of thets who dant noe.

[AN]

"Cinema For Thurso Group" <canuimagine@btopenworld.com> wrote:

You weren't there that day my primary 7 teacher made 31 pupils mouths hit
the floor when she told them that I have an above-average IQ and was clevurrur
than the rest of them put together. Spelling errors are a marked sign of
higher intillect for the benafite of thets who dant noe.

BUT keeping to my original thread, are you interested in creating
your own music or not?????
Even big heads can do it, so write to me if you wish to hear samples.
If not get back to school.
BTW, guaranteed absolutely NO accordians !

Albert..with a guaranteed IQ.

[Atta Chui]

Of course there is nothing wrong if you must use existing music if you have
to. IAC helps you to do this properly if you go this route.

For many people, constraints in time and resource do restrict us from expressing
our musical talent, particularly in filmmaking we already work as script
writer, camera operation, computer technician, project manager who negoiates
to get anything free, etc.

I guess I can put some music together myself (played with my daughter at
piano sometimes even though i don't read and write music), but to the true
spirit of amatuer productions, I am never shame of asking around for help.

And I am lucky that I got a lot of help from many talented musicians locally.

If you use existing music, don't choose from a film, and don't use popular
classicals. People associate the music with another film, or their own experience
with that piece of music, and it's an insult to your creative film!

Atta

[Cinema For Thurso Group]

I am always interested in music and have always had some thought to create
it. I'm not a big-head by the way (I know my limits and don't deny them)and
I'm quite able to play by ear. I do the opening bars of Toccata in D extremely
well and I aim to learn the whole of it so I can have a thump on the big
pipe organ in our main church.
There are a lot of talented musicians in Thurso too but it's smallville and
there goes the attitude of local sceptisism. They simply don't believe it's
possible to make films this far north. They are strange like that and yet
they believe in Eastenders.

If you use existing music, don't choose from a film, and don't use popular
classicals.
Well that's right and wrong. The bottom line is that it depends on the story

you put to the music. If you can hit the audience with a visually striking
image it's your film that will stick in their minds when they hear the music
again. The Flower Duet from Lakme has been associated with the horror film
"The Hunger" but British Airways took it for there own in the 80s and Ride
Of The Valkiries has been played to death in dozens of pictures yet very
few people would think of "Appocalypse Now" in association to it. It nearly
ended up in Fantasia. Dance Of The Sugar Plum Fairy has worked successfully
in features and adverts for years. Existing film music should not be a no
no. It really does depend on what you choose and how you use it. To run away
from these things simply because they are familiar is as much folly as to
chuck rocks at things we don't understand. You are never going to know until
you try and in some cases that means going against "better judgement". The
bottom line is that no-one is going to see the things you've tried and found
didn't work.

[AN]

"Cinema For Thurso Group" <canuimagine@btopenworld.com> wrote:

I am always interested in music and have always had some thought to create
it. I'm not a big-head by the way (I know my limits and don't deny them)and
I'm quite able to play by ear. I do the opening bars of Toccata in D extremely
well and I aim to learn the whole of it so I can have a thump on the big
pipe organ in our main church.
There are a lot of talented musicians in Thurso too but it's smallville
and
there goes the attitude of local sceptisism. They simply don't believe it's
possible to make films this far north. They are strange like that and yet
they believe in Eastenders.
If you use existing music, don't choose from a film, and don't use popular
classicals.
Well that's right and wrong. The bottom line is that it depends on the story
you put to the music. If you can hit the audience with a visually striking
image it's your film that will stick in their minds when they hear the music
again. The Flower Duet from Lakme has been associated with the horror film
"The Hunger" but British Airways took it for there own in the 80s and Ride
Of The Valkiries has been played to death in dozens of pictures yet very
few people would think of "Appocalypse Now" in association to it. It nearly
ended up in Fantasia. Dance Of The Sugar Plum Fairy has worked successfully
in features and adverts for years. Existing film music should not be a no
no. It really does depend on what you choose and how you use it. To run
away
from these things simply because they are familiar is as much folly as to
chuck rocks at things we don't understand. You are never going to know until
you try and in some cases that means going against "better judgement". The
bottom line is that no-one is going to see the things you've tried and found
didn't work.

I take it that all the above really means is, "Thanks, Albert, for your kind

offer to send me some music examples of what can be done on the PC, but I
am
not interested, as I wish keep to my accordian."

You did thank me, didn't you Thurso, for my offer? (!!!)

Albert....making burnt offerings.

[Cinema For Thurso Group]

I haven't replied to you yet Albert!!!