Dear reader,
My name is Rob Brouwer. I live in The Netherlands and I am currently working
on a video project/experiment. It is called “the 20 seconds project”. For
this project I need the help of people who have a videocamera.
I hope you can forward this message to other people who have a videocamera.
I would like to invite them to participate with this project.
You can find more info on www.20secondsproject.com
Thanks for helping me,
Rob
video film experiment
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AN
Re: video film experiment
"Rob Brouwer" <forums@theiac.org.uk> wrote:
Nice idea but 500 x 20 secs is nearly a three hour end result.
Isn't that rather long for anyone to watch?...
......they don't have the TIME!!
And if you edit it down it no longer becomes a random take of this
world next year, BUT your own version of it! I reckon a 5 sec take
is sufficiently long to get a 'look' at the world thro 500 cameras.
Albert..
Hi Rob, (that is, if you are bothering to come back and read comments!)Dear reader,
My name is Rob Brouwer. I live in The Netherlands and I am currently working
on a video project/experiment. It is called “the 20 seconds project”. For
this project I need the help of people who have a videocamera.
I hope you can forward this message to other people who have a videocamera.
I would like to invite them to participate with this project.
You can find more info on www.20secondsproject.com
Thanks for helping me,
Rob
Nice idea but 500 x 20 secs is nearly a three hour end result.
Isn't that rather long for anyone to watch?...
......they don't have the TIME!!
And if you edit it down it no longer becomes a random take of this
world next year, BUT your own version of it! I reckon a 5 sec take
is sufficiently long to get a 'look' at the world thro 500 cameras.
Albert..
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Dave Watterson
Re: video film experiment
Fot those who have not checked his website, Rob Brouwer has a project to record
whatever is happening at 13.00 pm GMT (Greenwich mean time) on the 15th
of May 2004.
All he asks is that you point your camcorder at something - no acting, faking
or jokes
- and record what is there for 20 seconds. When assembled the whole project
will give some sort of idea of what the world was like at that moment.
It might be fascinating.
In our town a local arts centre occasionally passes out dozens of disposable
cameras with instructions that you should take one picture of someone at
your work, of your leisure activity, of your meal ... the subject changes
each time they do it ... then pass the camera on to someone else to do the
same. Eventually the cameras are returned to the arts centre, the films
processed and the prints displayed. Usually the results are fascinating.
Sometimes a single face pops up time and again. Sometimes there is a glut
of people eating sausages.
I guess the message for all of us is that people are fascinating.
If you have a camcorder, check out Rob's site (www.20secondsproject.com)
and think about taking part.
Cheers
Dave McDozy Watterson
whatever is happening at 13.00 pm GMT (Greenwich mean time) on the 15th
of May 2004.
All he asks is that you point your camcorder at something - no acting, faking
or jokes
- and record what is there for 20 seconds. When assembled the whole project
will give some sort of idea of what the world was like at that moment.
It might be fascinating.
In our town a local arts centre occasionally passes out dozens of disposable
cameras with instructions that you should take one picture of someone at
your work, of your leisure activity, of your meal ... the subject changes
each time they do it ... then pass the camera on to someone else to do the
same. Eventually the cameras are returned to the arts centre, the films
processed and the prints displayed. Usually the results are fascinating.
Sometimes a single face pops up time and again. Sometimes there is a glut
of people eating sausages.
I guess the message for all of us is that people are fascinating.
If you have a camcorder, check out Rob's site (www.20secondsproject.com)
and think about taking part.
Cheers
Dave McDozy Watterson
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Dave Watterson
Re: video film experiment
Just a further thought on the project ... what a good idea for clubs!
Ask all your members to record a minute or so showing their activity at a
specified date and time ... then edit them all together linked by theme,
subject or just best comedic impact.
Or ask everyone to record a meal on a specific day - it could range from
Buckingham Palace garden party to a picnic on the beach.
Or ask everyone to shoot one minute summing up the delight of their hobby
(other than video making!)
This compilation lark could be fascinating.
Dave
Ask all your members to record a minute or so showing their activity at a
specified date and time ... then edit them all together linked by theme,
subject or just best comedic impact.
Or ask everyone to record a meal on a specific day - it could range from
Buckingham Palace garden party to a picnic on the beach.
Or ask everyone to shoot one minute summing up the delight of their hobby
(other than video making!)
This compilation lark could be fascinating.
Dave
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Cinema For Thurso Group
Re: video film experiment
Way to go Rob, this is a great idea. Not only a creative initiative that will
yield a fascinating work of art but perhaps a work of some historical worth
in the years ahead. If you get a good spread of cameras throughout the world
to be shooting 20 seconds at the same moment in time you will surely achieve
a finished work deserving of mass attention. Whatever the length, 3 hours
or so, I think I'd like to see it- to view 500 images taken acroos the planet
in one time- waow! I wish you all the best with your project and, hey, get
on to some TV companies when you're done and get the thing televised.
yield a fascinating work of art but perhaps a work of some historical worth
in the years ahead. If you get a good spread of cameras throughout the world
to be shooting 20 seconds at the same moment in time you will surely achieve
a finished work deserving of mass attention. Whatever the length, 3 hours
or so, I think I'd like to see it- to view 500 images taken acroos the planet
in one time- waow! I wish you all the best with your project and, hey, get
on to some TV companies when you're done and get the thing televised.
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AN
Re: video film experiment
"Dave Watterson" <dave.movies@virgin.net> wrote:
Why? Because only the developed world has the camcorders to
carry this out.
The starving millions of this world would not be able to give any
input, so the end result would be a biased view of this world as
seen by the camcorder owning rich!
Albert....richly deserved.
It's just occured to me that this idea is doomed from the start.Fot those who have not checked his website, Rob Brouwer has a project to
record
whatever is happening at 13.00 pm GMT (Greenwich mean time) on the 15th
of May 2004.
All he asks is that you point your camcorder at something - no acting, faking
or jokes
- and record what is there for 20 seconds. When assembled the whole project
will give some sort of idea of what the world was like at that moment.
It might be fascinating.
Why? Because only the developed world has the camcorders to
carry this out.
The starving millions of this world would not be able to give any
input, so the end result would be a biased view of this world as
seen by the camcorder owning rich!
Albert....richly deserved.
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Cinema For Thurso Group
Re: video film experiment
"AN" <AnimatioN@btopenworld.com> wrote:
interesting, very artistic don't you think!"Cinema For Thurso Group" <canuimagine@btopenworld.com> wrote:
WHAT?
Albert...a bit blankety blank!
Ah well that would have been where my PC decided to do it's own thing- quite
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AN
Re: video film experiment
"Cinema For Thurso Group" <canuimagine@btopenworld.com> wrote:
Unless a PC has an awareness of its own being ("I think, therefore I am."),
it can never express anything, therefore can never be artistic.
It may generate music/images/sound but none of these are self expression.
Albert....blank expression.
Can computer generated art ever be artistic?Ah well that would have been where my PC decided to do it's own thing-
quite
interesting, very artistic don't you think!
Unless a PC has an awareness of its own being ("I think, therefore I am."),
it can never express anything, therefore can never be artistic.
It may generate music/images/sound but none of these are self expression.
Albert....blank expression.
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Cinema For Thurso Group
Re: video film experiment
What's wrong Albert, you always seem to have some nit-pickey approach. Are
you the John Tickle (Big-Brother 4) of this website- here to stur it up.
You always seem to have only negative responses to our contributions. Did
you last movie get a nasty pointing or something. A PC doing it's own thing
can happen, i.e. when the operating system becomes overloaded the system
fails, just like any living person.
I don't think I said anything about CGI being art but if you really want
to pick on that topic, remember that you only get out what you put in. CGI
is only processed by the PC but the images are calculated and manipulated
by living people as a sculptor would work with clay, as a painter would work
with paint as a cinematographer would work with film and camera, as an actor
would work with script- need I continue to exemplify how ALL our creativity
in ANY FORM revolves around INANIMATE, THOUGHTLESS and POSITIVELY NON-LIVING
MATTER.
Have you been outside lately?
you the John Tickle (Big-Brother 4) of this website- here to stur it up.
You always seem to have only negative responses to our contributions. Did
you last movie get a nasty pointing or something. A PC doing it's own thing
can happen, i.e. when the operating system becomes overloaded the system
fails, just like any living person.
I don't think I said anything about CGI being art but if you really want
to pick on that topic, remember that you only get out what you put in. CGI
is only processed by the PC but the images are calculated and manipulated
by living people as a sculptor would work with clay, as a painter would work
with paint as a cinematographer would work with film and camera, as an actor
would work with script- need I continue to exemplify how ALL our creativity
in ANY FORM revolves around INANIMATE, THOUGHTLESS and POSITIVELY NON-LIVING
MATTER.
Have you been outside lately?
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AN
Re: video film experiment
"Cinema For Thurso Group" <canuimagine@btopenworld.com> wrote:
unnecessarily rude at times too.
Albert....having a rude awakening about some PC operators.
I was wrong about PCs. For it now seems to me that they can beWhat's wrong Albert, you always seem to have some nit-pickey approach. Are
you the John Tickle (Big-Brother 4) of this website- here to stur it up.
You always seem to have only negative responses to our contributions. Did
you last movie get a nasty pointing or something. A PC doing it's own thing
can happen, i.e. when the operating system becomes overloaded the system
fails, just like any living person.
unnecessarily rude at times too.
Albert....having a rude awakening about some PC operators.
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Cinema For Thurso Group
Re: video film experiment
Hmm, well it won't be the first time no doubt, aha ha ha HA HA HA HA HAI was wrong about PCs. For it now seems to me that they can be
unnecessarily rude at times too.
Albert....having a rude awakening about some PC operators.
ho hum! stay right there- you have so much to learn.